Half-Dragon Game!!!

[Setzer Gabbiani]

I'm going to start a game where all the PCs are half-dragons. 48 point buy (Really high power, you'll find out why), level 1 start, 900 starting gp. PHB/Psi/OA classes accepted (OA will be kind of alienated, but then again, all you will be at times). Any nonevil alignment is accepted. Max hp at first, 1/2+Con mod after. I need players that will post at least once a week, with warning (If possible) if they won't be on for a while.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

By the way, I'm only allowing 1 of each type of half-dragon. I'm not letting in 5 gold monks.

The breath weapon's save DC is 10+1/2 character level+Con modifier.

[SponkleofInfini]

I assume you arn't going to worry about the half dragon ecl.

I like how you are handling the breath weapons save also.

I'm in if you will have me, you may not want me after the last game though.

[LonePaladin]

Do we have to be metallic dragon stock?

[Maeko]

You have a silver fighter here! :)

[BigRedRod]

I'll have a play if you'll have me
I'm prolly going PsiWarrior
as for dragon type
Any chance you will allow one of the crystal dragons? WoTC published them a while back on their site as psionic dragons. I'l dig up a link and see what you think. If you'll agree i'll pick one and convert it to something around the power level of the others, then you can just give me a yes or no :)
Once a week shouldn't be much of a prob for me

heres the link to the psi-drags (http://www.wizards.com/dnd/article.asp?x=dnd/we/we20010330a)

[SponkleofInfini]

Yeah I was planning on being a Psion. I might be a half crystal dragon also.

I'll wait to see how BRR does it before I choose.

[BigRedRod]

actually all that depends on the dragon is breath weapon flavour and damage
and the immunity
so it shouldn't be any significant change at all
which is always good news, no chance of screwing myself out of power or screwing up the games power level :)

amethyst are force-based so they might cuase a few problems

crystal have cold immunity but their breath weapon is a light attack that cuases blindness, might be a bit of a problem. But it is easy enough to use

emerald have sonic immunity but their breath weapon does sonic damage and deafens, so maybe have the damage at one of the lower levels and any pain can be avoided

sapphire have electrical immunity and it says a sonic breath weapon (like the emerald), i think it might be a typo though. Not too sure though :P Assuming it;'s not that can be solved as above

topaz have cold immunity and a dehydration breath weapon, it's not an energy type and can be exploited a little more but then again not everything contains liquid so against some creatures its worthless

and thats about it
so most may need a little tweak but they will be in the same traditional half-dragon band (the weird band caused by the great difference in breath weapon strengths)
So it's up to the DM to either agree or slap me silly for suggesting it :D or just disallow any that might be problems


are psionics gonna be different?
I'll prolly go for PsiWarrior whether or not though

The only other problems i can forsee are people wnating to be other tpyes of half-dragon
Like the scalymandragons (or whatever they are called from MoF), song dragons, deep dragons, shadow dragons, and fang dragons. Even then it shouldn't be too tough (although fang dragons have no breath weapon, i can't remember about the others)

[Setzer Gabbiani]

MM and Compendum dragon types may be used (Both good and evil). The alignment has changed to "often" since you all originate in a town of basically magical misfits. Sorry, but no crystal dragons, only book official ones. Fang and Shadow Don't have an immunity (Due to the lack of an element). Half-Fang get +4 on saves vs ability drain, and may inflict 1d4 Con drain 1/day (Call the attack, get Cha mod added to attack roll). Shadow Dragons get +4 vs energy drain, and their breath weapon functions normally (Though it is a support weapon in most cases). Complete immunity is too powerful for such attacks, but a failure will do only half damage (minimum 1 unless stated otherwise).

Yes, I will reaccept members of Shadowknight, as long as you can post 1/week and will (If you can) warn me of impending abcences.

SponkleofInfini, Maeko, and BigRedRod are in so far. Lonepaladin can join if he wants now that I've answered the metallic question.

[LonePaladin]

Thanks, but I think I really ought to pass for now. I'm kinda spread thin as it is:


One game IRL that I'm DMing
One game IRL that I'm playing in
The freeform game here
Another PBEM that's just getting interesting
All the little pet projects I'm working on (programs and the like)


I'm surprised I'm not already worn out. :tired:

[SponkleofInfini]

I think I will be a Half Red Dragon Psion (Egoist), Who will eventually gain the Pyrokenitcist Prestige class.

Will you be using the revised version?

The only change is that they gain +1 to existing class every second level instead of discovering powers like stated in the PsiHB.

[BigRedRod]

ah well no crystal (damn you WoTC for not sticking them in the PsiHb :) )

i'll go for Brass instead then, and Psiwarrior
I'm not too sure about base race
I'll prolly see ho much of the character i cabn get finished today

[Setzer Gabbiani]

I haven't had the Psi handbook for very long, so it must be the last version for 3e. Whatever it says I'm going with.

As for prestige classes, no problem as long as it doesn't require too much micromanegment or a game-shattering event (No armies or direct diety stuff, for example). The pyro is fine. You may want to look at the Pyro feat in S&S (+1 damage per die for fire attacks and +5 DC to put self out).

email your characters to joker_doom@hotmail.com, and put them in the MM-block format or something similar.

[BigRedRod]

by revised form I think he means the one that the author of the book posted somewhere saying he kinda screwed up on the metamind and should have thought of the +1 caster/manifester level thingy himself

[BigRedRod]

ok thats my sheet finished
I can't see there being any major mistakes :)
I'll sort the formatting fully out once I pose it, then i can use vbcode to make it more readable

but i'm playing a copper psychcic warrior

there isnt a background yet, i have a few vague ideas about him, but i do want to waste my time writing something that might not fit in the world :)

[SponkleofInfini]

I have a background Idea also, but once more world details appear I will post it, or send it to you. My character is almost finished also.......just have to convert it to MM format.

[BigRedRod]

bugger i forgot to change mine to that when i had finsihed :P
ah well if you need a resend let me know and i'll send it as a MM stat block to you

[BigRedRod]

even simple addition proved too challenging for me
my hp on that sheet should have been 13
i've changed it on my copy

[Setzer Gabbiani]

For whoever posted Tehanu, I need two more things:

1. As half-human, you still get the 4 skill points and 1 feat

2. I need to know how you're going to use the bite, so I can set the -5 to one of them. Which way is it?

[BigRedRod]

which means i missed off the four human bonus skill points too :P
I'll update my copy again :)

[Maeko]

Tehanu it's me.

I'll take track and put the four points in widerness lore.

I don't really plan to use the bite unless in emergecies, in wich case it will be the primary weapon.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

*Note that I will call all players by their character's names.

Archos, well put together, only two mistakes, and minor ones at that.

1. You have 32 skill points. You have used 25. Also, Stabilize Self is trained-only, so you can't just use your Str bonus with it.

2. You (And everyone else) needs to tell me if claws or bite comes first. You most likely will use it at some time.

[SponkleofInfini]

You can nominate which natural attack is your primary.

Stabilize Self is a class skill I have from being an Egoist. It also goes off my con mod hence 4 Ranks + 4 Con = 8 skill mod.

I only get 32 skill points for 1st level (4+3)x4+4=32, and I am spot on with them looking at my sheet. The one thats not in MM format It is possible I could have made mistakes when typing that one out but the sheet I work off i correct down to the last skill point.

If you want I can send you the other sheet that I use, I feel that it is easier to read, but anyway my sheet was pretty much correct.

[BigRedRod]

my attacks go bite->2 claws
I did by the order I wrote them in my attacks section

So i get Full and then -5 and -5 to my claws

I listed the attack bonuses for this triple combo in my attacks section too

Although I can change it to another form if you don't find it clear enough

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Actually Sponk, Stabilize Self is Str-based, which would give you +8 without any ranks.

4 (Psion)+3 (Int) x4 (1st Level) +4 (Human Half) = 32 Skill points.

As of now your skills are (Including skills you can use untrained, ability bonuses, and armor check[but not swim weight yet]): Alchemy +3.5, Appraise +3, Autohypnosis +5, Balance +0, Bluff +2, Climb +10, Concentration +8, Craft +3, Diplomacy +2, Disguise +2, Escape Artist +0, Forgery +3, Gather Information +2, Heal +1, Hide +0, Intimidate +2, Jump +10, Knowledge (Psionics) +7, Listen +1, Move Silently +0, Perform +2, Psicraft +7, Remote View +3, Ride +2, Scry +3, Search +3, Sense Motive +1, Spot +1, Swim +8, Use Rope +2, Wilderness Lore +1

You need at least 1 rank in SS to use it.

Edit: Your swim mod is -13, because you're carrying 106.5 lbs of junk. Betcha didn't know that 10 fires were over a dozen pounds.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

I'll give you a clue as to why you're all so powerful: It's called a plague bearer. It's like a zombie with 5 HD, poison, and it's almost as strong as an ogre -- and it's the least of your worries...

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Variant rules:

Ranger (I'll be more specific if anyone actually takes the class)

Critical hits: I don't use the "instand death" variant, but if the confirming roll is a natural 20, the damage is maximized.

ECL: You are still considered level 1, but the challenges are more or less as the ECL -- expect to gain levels really fast.

You are free to suggest variants.

Conversions: I use a few Diablo II enemy conversions (I don't have the DII/D&D handbook). If you play the game, you'll understand what I'm doing.
For each "step" above the first type I add 1 HD, and +2 to stats that the enemy uses most often (Usually the physical ones).
For every 2 steps, I increase the damage by 1 type
For every 3 steps, I increase the CR of the base D&D creature by 1.
Minions: +2 HD, +1 CR
Uniques: 1d3 special abilities, +3 CR, +8 HD

I may change these without warning or further posting of said changes. When the game starts I definately won't post it.

[SponkleofInfini]

Are you getting the str mod from the errated version? Cause in the PsiHB it has Con mod as the mod for SS which I am going off, if you are going off the PsiHB then it actually says con p20. If it is the errated version you are going off then I apolgise cause I don't have it and wasn't the wiser.

[BigRedRod]

Don't bother ever picking up the diablo II book
It isn't very good

How far are we from starting?
I'm itching to go :)

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Well for one thing, I only have 1 character sent to me (Archon). I may have accidentally cut another, though. If your email is from @somedamnjunkmail.com (IE almost everything I get), I may have deleted it by name--sorry. But I still need everyone but Archon.

Didn't have the errata'd version (Surprising since I didn's exactly get an early print). It's Con after all, and Archon still has 3 skill points to use.

[Maeko]

Haven't you got Tehanu as well?

[BigRedRod]

perhaps mentioning the fact you hadn't recieved my character when I have posted a fair bit about it would have been a good idea :)

I'll try a re-send

[BigRedRod]

ok i've sent it off again
If you don't have it sat in your mail next time you check let me know and we can take a third stab at it :)

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Tehanu, I have the basics, but I can't find your gear or skills.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

For Reyn:

-The second attack is at half damage bonus for the claws/bite. One of them has to have a +3 to damage instead of a +7.
-Your hp is 11, not 13.
-You have 3 feats on the sheet, and you only get two.
-You can put down one more language

Just post the corrections here. As for everyone else, I have a psion and a psychic warrior. Someone may want to play something else, like a cleric.

[BigRedRod]

I get 3 feats
I'm a human so i get a feat
I get one for being 1st level
i get a psiwarrior bonus feat

my hp should be 13
psi warrior has d8, that goes up to d10 with the template
max points and 3 con
that gives 13

I didn't notice that whole 1/2 strength on secondaries, my mistake there :)

I don't understand why I get an extra language
I get common free being a human
then i get three more (becuase my int mod is +3)
[i'll check MM errata perhaps half-dragons get draconic for free like elemental creatures do]

Although I tend to make little rule mistakes fairly often, but I prefer to know where i went wrong :)

[Maeko]

Sent Tehanu again, let me know if she gets lost in between. ;)

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Sorry Biggs, I forgot about the template HD increase and feat. I give draconic away for free.

Tehanu looks pretty good, but the skills are a bit off. You have 20, but you seem to have used more than your level allows. A +10 on climb is impossible since you can only have 4 ranks at 1st level, and the armor penalty makes the natural bonus +4. I need to know what your ranks are. This goes for everybody--Just give me the ranks, I'll fill in the rest.

BTW Tehanu, you have a -10 to swim, not including ranks, making a total of -3 impossible.

[SponkleofInfini]

Did you want me to send the sheet I work off? It has all the specific information, I have looked at it and there seems to be no mistakes with my skills. Or I could just post it.

I was thinking of replacing Quicken spell like ability with Multiattack and taking quicken spell like ability later like 3rd level.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Just post what your ranks are, without weight, armor check penalty, or ability bonuses. Also, half-dragons don't get any spell-like abilities, so quicken spell-like ability is a no. Quicken spell maybe, but no SAs for you.

I have a fighter, a psion with a strength focus, and a psychic warrior. Seriously, the last one or two characters should be something else--you have almost no healing and less than 15 hp for ECL 4 enemies.

[SponkleofInfini]

Well I know half dragons don't get spell like abilities but Pyrokinetecist's do :) hence the reason why I want to take the feat at 3rd level instead of now due to me not being able to use it until 5th or 6th level.

[SponkleofInfini]

The skill points you requested:

Autohypnosis - 4 Ranks
Concentration - 4 Ranks
Knowledge (Psionics) - 4 Ranks
Psicraft - 4 Ranks
Climb - 4 Ranks
Jump - 4 Ranks
Stabilize Self - 4 Ranks
Alchemy - 2 Ranks

[Setzer Gabbiani]

I think actually having a spell-like ability is a prereq for getting the feat. I'll replace it with multiattack 4u, but that feat only covers natural weapons.

Skills are fixed.

[Maeko]

Seltzer, Tehanu has 20 skill points for fighter and 4 for human.

Sorry for climb, my mistake, that should be +7, as to swim I start at -14, with a +7 for strenght and 4 ranks, that gives-3... :)

[BigRedRod]

well if you are giving away free languages I'll take Giant too :)

And yeaha cleric would be a nice addition, although there are a few powers that act as low-power healing spells so we might be able to survive :)

[SponkleofInfini]

Yeah well I knew it only covers natural weapons, but at this level they are the most effective. The only pre requisite for quicken spell like ability is you have to be a dragon.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Tehanu your skill points are:

2[Base]+2[Int]x4[1st-Level]+4[Human]=20

Shave off 4 of what you have.

I'm still looking for one more player if anyone's interested.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

Attention: I will now start a new forum for this game. I will still take up to 2 more players, who can jump in whenever I actually get them.

[Setzer Gabbiani]

CALLING ALL PLAYERS: DRAGONS AND THE DEAD WILL START AS SOON AS YOU ARE ALL PRESENT. RESPOND IMMEDIATELY!!

[SponkleofInfini]

I'm done

[Maeko]

Ready too

[BigRedRod]

peep

[Setzer Gabbiani]

You know, I only have 3 characters. I'll take up to 2 more, and almost need one more. I have a Fighter, an Egoist, and a Psychic Warrior. In other words, I don't need any more front-liners. Can someone look past the massive half-dragon Str bonus and play a sorcerer or cleric?

[Setzer Gabbiani]

HEY! STILL CAN USE ANOTHER PLAYER! SOMEBODY...