OOC Chat

[BigRedRod]

A new beginning...

All the usual OOC jibber jabber goes here.

[chalice]

OK - draft character sheet for Inyx posted as requested. No equipment yet - what would you like us to do about equipping the characters?

[BigRedRod]

Standard second level gold, no more than half on any one item. Chalice, could you mark your total skill bonuses on the sheet too. Apart from that its nice to see one of the players steaming ahead with a character, hopefully the others will move as quickly.

[chalice]

Will do, boss. Hoping to have evrything on there this evening.

<looks up from equipment section> And - oh dear - I think I may have to buy a pack pony to fit all of Inyx's archeology kit, nice wine and snuggly spare blankets onhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20embarrassed.gif

[chalice]

Seriously, shall we have an OOC concensus as to whether to purchase mounts or not?

[The Alcotroll]

I tend to find that mounts are an inconvenience and are forgotten easily. I'd rather not have to tie up my pony every time we wander down into some ruins, and return to find that some scrote has nicked it.

Personally, as a Dwarf I have no problem lugging my 70lb of kit and weapons around, and will be happy to carry some of your stuff too if your feeble little Human legs can't magage it...

[chalice]

Uh, slender Half-Elven legs thank you! Will see if can manage without my horse and pack pony, thoughhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[Tamarind]

Well, it's not like he could run off with it now is it? http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

*dodges Dwarven kneecap attack*

[The Alcotroll]

"We Dwarves are natural sprinters... Very dangerous over short distaces!"

[Tamarind]

"Short" being the operative word there http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

Seriously though if we're not going for mounts I'll wave goodbye to my warhorse and take back some of the points I spent on ride...

[chalice]

No being mean to the dwarf! (I may need him for heavy lifting.)

Having sacrificed my extra woolly blankets, my tent, my silk rope and a few other necessities, I managed to be no more than medium encumbered on foot. But if I need to lay in trail rations or completely fill my waterskin, I'm gonna need helphttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif Life on 9 Strength - sigh!

[The Alcotroll]

Well we could take horses.

I'm on medium, and I still have 300 Gp to spend. It's just that whenever I see horses in a group, they're forgotten about, or else something comes up that's a hindrance. Like exploring ruins.

Perhaps Mr Tim can give us a base to operate out of where we can stow the more un-necessary kit?

[chalice]

A base'd be nice! I have cash for lots more neat stuff, but can't lift any of it. I didn't know if we'd be needing crowbars, shovels and things for digging up ruins...invested in them all at first, then Inyx fell over.

I did find that most of the weight carried by pack pony turned out to be food for the pack pony. And you're right - animals do tend to run off if you leave them at the ruin entrance with a nosebag and a friendly 'mummy'll be back soon, you wait here'.

I now have an ambulatory version I'm quite happy with. Inyx likes her comforts, but can do without for a certain length of time - probably using up some of that spare cash on luxuries in breaks between expeditionshttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[BigRedRod]

In the beginning you can rely on the guildsmen who hired you to provide any specialist materials. Then again, being prepared always has advantages when the unexpected happens.

[The Alcotroll]

And In Tim's games, the unexpected is only to be expected.

[chalice]

<pokes 'Troll> Does the rogue speak anything other than Dwarven?

[The Alcotroll]

Nope. He's going to sulk in a corner, steadfastly refusing to speak in anything other than his native language.

Much like a Welshman...

[Thanos]

Well I am thinking of a Elvin Fighter/Wizard at the moment. Not a front line type all of the time as he will become more and more Wizard as he goes along. Other than that I was thinking of a human Gladiator type (straight fighter), who won his freedom of course ;-)....then again a straight wizard might be helpful later on down the line in sheer firepower.

Any suggestions from the peanut gallary while I bone up on my third edition?

Gladiator would be Bollan the Bold
Wizard would be Solumun the Wierd (also likely an Elf)
The F/W would be Tup'an Au'naah (would specialize in whatever school Lightning Bolt/Fireball/Magic Missle is in ;-)

[BigRedRod]

I don't recall ever seeing someone playing an ex-gladiator anywhere on the site. And I think the physical muscle would help balance the party (with luck a wizard is on the way). So I heartily endorse the concept. Sinst city has a large arena, and Rerl is the kind of place that would have a few arenas in order to amuse the aristocracy. As would Venterra. So yes, lots of possiblities for that one.


Also, in order to encourage pretty character sheets and interesting backgrounds I'm offering a possible 500xp bonus to each character. Half for the sheet looking good and being correct and half for the background and nice fluffy bits.

[Tamarind]

ooh - xps!


Definitely motivation to continue my battle with the thread editor tonight - hopefully it'll be nicer than it was last night and make my character sheet pretty (well prettier anyway!) :)

[chalice]

And an ex-Gladiator could carry some really heavy books <hopeful look>

Were you thinking of an ex-Gladiator from the Imperium itself?

I tried for pretty with a couple of pics - but can only make them work as links to my photobucket, not get them to appear in the thread itself. One day, I aspire to make columns 'stay' too.

[Tamarind]

And I wouldn't say no to some help on the front-line either...with two of us it would be an actual line for a start ;)

[Dev]

The wizard is here! The wizard is here! .... and yes, he's that prententious. -_-; So brace yourselves.

I'm quite glad I found this thread. It gives me a chance to show that I'm not a complete asshole, unlike the character. Well ... we'll see how they get on. Just thought I'd poke my head in, with a sheet on the way later today.

[The Alcotroll]

Another arsehole Wizard.

Gods Tim, did you plan this?

Edit: By the way Dev, that wan't a dig at you...

[Thanos]

When was the last time somebody played a humble unassuming wizard?

/me doesn't raise his hand.

[Thanos]

NARF.....A Gladiator of DOOM it is. I will have to get some reading done on the backstory in the areas you mentioned.

[Dev]

Horrah for meatshields! Er ... I mean ...

And ironically, the last character I played was a rather humble conjurer ... despite his being a prankster. So far, this time around, it just seems like he's turning out to be a pompous prick. But as I said, we'll just have to see.

[Thanos]

Erm....how do I figure out starting gold for a fighter?

Could He afford Banded Mail and a Great Sword?

[BigRedRod]

Standard level 2 starting gold : 900gp (it is on a well hidden table in the DMG)

[chalice]

So far, this time around, it just seems like he's turning out to be a pompous prick.

But he has a KITTYhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20smiley.gif

[chalice]

NARF.....A Gladiator of DOOM it is. I will have to get some reading done on the backstory in the areas you mentioned.

Tam played an-ex gladiator in our last face-to-face WFRP game. Excellent in a fight, but so used to having everything done for him by slaves he could barely tie his own sandalshttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20lick.gif

So: brooding ranger, weedy cleric, doomy gladiator, pompous wizard and, uh, Welsh rogue. I'd hire us!

[Thanos]

Well he is an Intimidation based Gladiator instead of a Performance Gladiator. He scared the cr@p out of people and was basicly the badguy that the crowd loved to hate!

[chalice]

eek

[Tamarind]

Well he is an Intimidation based Gladiator instead of a Performance Gladiator. He scared the cr@p out of people and was basicly the badguy that the crowd loved to hate!

Cool! We can scare people into hiring us!

[chalice]

Proper backstory for Inyx now posted up in her 'character' thread.

[Thanos]

Heheh, as I have figured it he has a 9 in Intimidate and no charisma bonus as this time...

I am still working on the story sorry to stay. I will be doing the finishing touches and posting it in the morning, when I get another 2 hours of time to actually do something.

[Dev]

Prepare yourselves! ... for the first of many inquiries to come, from the One Who Has Never Done This Before. ::ahem:: That'd be me. I don't think I'll ever be hopelessly confused, but I'll probably need minor clarifications from time to time. The first being ....

Is it customary to include such in-depth character history as part of your character sheet? I mean, I have mine in my head, but it seems kind of awkward to spill it into posts now. For example, chalice, I have to say I really enjoyed the scenes you put up... but I'm not supposed to know any of it. And secondly, committing to historical details now might take away some flexibility later. I guess it's not a big deal ... just wondering if it's something expected that I should take the time to do.

[BigRedRod]

Really it's all down to personal taste, Dev. If you want to define your character absolutely then do so, if you'd prefer to keep the other players in the dark until you bond a little IC then email me with your backstory or if you'd prefer to keep things loose and adaptable just give me a general idea and I'll talk to you as events come up that can be woven in with you.

[Tamarind]

Have added Re, Sevilin's red-shouldered hawk companion into the thread along with a couple of piccies http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[BigRedRod]

I endorse the use of illustrations of the characters. Also, Dev is currently winning the "pretty sheet" game.

[Thanos]

OK. Bollan the Bold's pre-character sheet and intro story are complete.

[BigRedRod]

Thanos, about the changes you came up with:

-The exchange of an EWP for all ranged MWPs doesn't quite seem right. I agree that your concept most likely should include the use of gladitorial weapons but I don't think altering the class is the way to do this

-Intimidate is already a fighter class skill and a poor class skill selection is one of the key drawbacks of the fighter class. I'd prefer you to just take the rest of your skills as cross class if needs be rather than picking and choosing.

[Tamarind]

Have amended Sevilin's character sheet a little and made a few improvements (such as making Search based on Int rather than Dex http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif)

[BigRedRod]

Today I'll try and spend some time going over the sheets in search of buried treasure ... I mean mistakes. Hopefully the Alcotroll will be up and about soon and ready to finish off his character. That way we can get cracking in the very near future.

[chalice]

I will go add a 'public knowledge' section to my character sheet - something I usually remember to do but for some reason skipped this time.

And I think I'm going to do some more shoppinghttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

[The Alcotroll]

I'm alive, and I'll have the background done up tonight. I'm almost tempted to see if I can managed to make pretty boxes around my sheet, but that's too much effort.

I hadn't intended my Dwarf to be Welsh, but now you mention it...

[BigRedRod]

Tam, you don't need that last post on your sheet. I'll use an expendables thread for easy access of that stuff

[Tamarind]

Consider it deleted http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

[The Alcotroll]

The Daleks are back! The Daleks are back!

[chalice]

Yay! for Daleks!

Inyx is updated now - maybe not pretty, but a lot more readable than the old version. I've added a 'public knowledge' section to the end of the character sheet. Anyone who has travelled/worked with her before may know more - PM or email me if you think this might be the case. (Tim, I'm unsure as to if we are a team meeting for the first time or not?)

[Tamarind]

Finally wrestled the editor into submission and produced a sheet I'm happy with...now for beer :nod:

[The Alcotroll]

Timbo...

I changed Hargin's second name, but I can't change the thread title. Apparently I don't have the right user privelieges to do that.

[BigRedRod]

They're back next week. And properly back by the looks of things.

I'll deal with this stuff in the morning, a little tipsy at the mo

[Tamarind]

Beer good! http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[chalice]

Yeah, 'beer foamy'.

Shopping done - had to purchase a mule, but the fluffy blankets are backhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheerful.gif

[The Alcotroll]

A mule eh?

Looks like I won't be needing those trail rations after all.

[chalice]

I'm with Hargin! Let's take neat stuff apart to find out how it works!

[chalice]

A mule eh? Looks like I won't be needing those trail rations after all.

Knew there was a reason I didn't give the mule a name and get all attached to it a la Armand in WFRP2http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20frown.gif

[Tamarind]

I'd think twice about that if I were you - have you seen how much that mule's carrying?? Even a pack-dwarf might not be up to that kind of load http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

[Tamarind]

I'm with Hargin! Let's take neat stuff apart to find out how it works!

Who knows, we might even find a working Dragoon - I bet they're *much* easier to pilot than the Guilds make out...http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

[BigRedRod]

(Tim, I'm unsure as to if we are a team meeting for the first time or not?)
You'll have been together for a few days as you travel towards the dig site. So you'll most likely already know names and a little about one another. There are nine other mercs working with the trio of guildsmen in this little ground (although two of the mercs aren't there to go rummaging about in dark dangerous ruins, they're a cook and a general dogsbody who aren't planning on leaving the camp). Of the nine, five have done a job such at this before (and two of those are the cook and dogsbody, so only three have been inside a ruin before aside from the guildsmen.

I changed Hargin's second name, but I can't change the thread title. Apparently I don't have the right user privelieges to do that.
How very odd. I'll go sort it now.

[Thanos]

Perhaps its changed from 3.0 to 3.5, but my book does not list Intimidate as a Fighter Skill only Barbarian and Rogue.

If you think its appropriate I could do 1 level of rogue then 1 level of fighter and get all of the skills appropriate. Not having a the EWP of Net is not a big deal to me, I was just trying to put the character together around the Gladiator concept instead of stricktly by the book.

If you think it would be better to be a Rogue 1 Fighter 1 then I can certainly do that. A thug could be a rogue after all :-). It will change the character sheet a lot in the skills department and lower his attack bonus by 1, but eh...no big deal.

[BigRedRod]

Yup, must've changed in the transition from 3 to 3.5
I don't see any need for a rank of rogue, but if you really feel that you need high bonuses in those skills then go for it.

[chalice]

Cheer up, Thanos - last time I played D&D, it was Second Edition (she says, cheerfully giving away her age) - skipped 3.0 entirely - I'm finding the whole character creation process very educational. And I have to say, I find the new stuff far better than the old. Loving it.

I kinda like the one rank of rogue, though - not only does it really personalise the character, but I find it (in a good way) amusing - 'son, you are not cut out for a life of crime. Waaaay too conspicuous...'

Why is it I think Inyx is going to be working her 'Negotiator' feat to death promoting our group as well-adjusted and useful?http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

[Tamarind]

Or we could just work on the "pay us to go away" angle... http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20ponder.gif

I'm worried that the two familiars will team up and conspire against us...could be a scary combo...

[Dev]

You'll have been together for a few days as you travel towards the dig site.
Hooboy. In this case, unfortunately, Inyx has already been thoroughly hit on by Daison. I'll probably be apologizing for him a lot, chalice... but you know how it goes. Once the character's formed, it's like there's nothing I can do to stop it. >_<

Edit: And I'm not so sure about the familiars conspiring... in fact, I think the only regard Ms. Pukabury will have given Re is to his (her?) nutritional value. :\

[chalice]

EDIT - So far, she doesn't actually seem to have noticed. But then she is reading this really interesting old book right now...

[The Alcotroll]

Thanos, I suggest you go sraight fighter since we'll be needing more front line capability than intimidation. And let's face it, when a meat-head ex-gladiator trys to intimidate someone, it's likely he gets a hefty circumstance bonus, cross-class or no.

[BigRedRod]

Once again : Intimidate is a class skill for a fighter

[Thanos]

Great. I will just rearrange the skills then with no Bluff and such. The +2 for having 5 in bluff was nice, but far from necessary.

Could somebody with a 3.5 post up what skills a Fighter does have in 3.5 or is it the same with 3.0 just add Intimidation? I also found that I have 3 more points than I should in skills in the first place. Was thinking that the first set was for 0 level and you got 2+Int*2 for first as well....heh! The great fun in almost having to learn a new system I guess. Been playing to much RIFTs ;-)

[Dev]

3.5 has Climb, Craft, Handle Animal, Intimidate, Jump, Ride, and Swim for fighter skills. I gave away my 3.0, so I unfortunately can't compare. :\ But, yeah, level skills points are (2+int)*4 ... and in case you ever need it, the 3.5 SRD is freely available online: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/article/srd35

[BigRedRod]

There is a prettier SRD here (http://srd.pbemnexus.com/home.html)

Is that all the characters done? Today would appear to be Monday somehow, so I may be busy. Either way, I'm going to go have a look over the characters who I didn't get round to / were unfinished yesterday. If everything is in order then I'll get cracking with the first IC post.

[Tamarind]

Sevilin's done (tweaked his cantrips slightly - replacing Daze with Acid Splash)

[chalice]

Inyx is done

[The Alcotroll]

I'm done.

I can't be arsed with code.

[Thanos]

I should be done with Bollan, at least on paper. I am not exactly sure what 'voice' he is going to have though ;-) will be thinking about it for a while.

[chalice]

You mean he isn't going to sound like Russell Crowe?http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

[BigRedRod]

Dammit, I'm meant to be wallowing in my free time with my exams dead. And yet I find myself busy.

If tomorrow is rainy I'm shooting a music video and if it isn't I'm off to the zoo, with the other activity on the day after.

However, if we're all extra lucky children I'll have some random chunks of space tomorrow. Things will calm down after wednesday afternoon though.

[The Alcotroll]

Russel Crowe is in the nick, so Thanos'll have to find someone else to impersonate.

[Thanos]

Bollan is not as cool as Maximus in the slightest! I would put the guy in at 12th level when he becomes a Gladiator. 7 levels in fighter and something like 5 in a General like prestige class. That and he has to have stats in the 16's in most things, and maybe a 14 strength. He does not appear to be massively strong, but more like he has Weapon Finesse and a High Dex?

Was thinking more of personality. Does he talk often, only when needed, not even then...is he straight and to the point, does he pump out a sentence when only 2 words is needed, does he spend minutes describing his last blow in a fight or does he just say "He died well". Stuff more along those lines.


Question:
The rules suggest that when using a weapon with two hands a character gets 1.5* their strength bonus in damage. Does this apply to weapons that require 2 hands to use, such as the Two-Handed Sword? Its only +2 damage for Bollan, but thats added to minimum damage being 8 vs 6, which is a reasonably big deal as it bumps it up to an insta-kill on any 1HD creature ;-)

[Dev]

Yep, looks like it applies to any two-handed weapon. I would have guessed not, since a two-handed weapon that's a size larger than normal automatically does more damage than a smaller counterpart, but I guess that's not the reason normal-sized weapons are two-handed. :P

[Thanos]

I was thinking like a Katana or a Bastard Sword. Both are made to be used as both one handed or two handed weapons. Things like polearms and largish weapons that require 2 hands might be different. However, I can also see where the leverage action involved with a polearm or two hander is very important (my favorite weapon is a great sword in RL and using lever action allows for very fast and intense strikes while keeping people at arms length as it were). I can justify the additional damage as a flat bonus based on extraordinary Str, but wanted a ruling as it were ;-).

[BigRedRod]

Well it only specifies the bonus isn't there when using a light weapon two handed. Unless anybody has any other insight in to this it is looking like you get the +1.5str

[Tamarind]

Seems that way - I guess it makes sense really, after all if a human can get 1.5x strength for wielding a bastard sword 2-handed rather than 1 then a half-giant should be able to get the same extra bonus for wielding a human greatsword in two-hands rather than 1...ie the greatsword's damage is based on it's size, not the fact that it's usually used 2-h:worry:

Whoo. Far too much analysis there...that'll teach me to post when I'm in the middle of wrestling with spreadsheets...;)

[chalice]

'Giles, I think I speak for everybody here when I say 'huh?' '

[Tamarind]

Guilty as charged :roll:

[BigRedRod]

I had a big long thing typed out which highlighted mistakes and sources of confusion I'd found in sheets. Alas, I lost it.

Anyhow, some of you seem confused about Attack bonuses and the Base Attack Bonus. If you have multiple weapons then list multiple hit bonuses, damage and the like. BAB depends only on class, it has nothing to do with strength, feats or anything else.
Tam, I'm not entirely sure about the familiars and languages.

Anyhow, everybody get your last finishing touches done I'm handing out xp tomorrow.

Chalice is currently winning full marks for backstory and Dev is winning the sheet clarity award.

[Tamarind]

Aha, I had just treated them as skills but careful reading of the higher level abilities does imply they're handled differently - otherwise Speak with Master is rather less of a cool power...will amend accordingly. Btw - is the xp award just for one person in each category or can we all get something for our humble efforts? *looks hopeful*

[BigRedRod]

The "winners" get the full 250xp out of each category, the rest of you earn xp with how I think you compare.

[Dev]

From what I recall, Speak with Master uses a unique language that only the familiar and the master can understand, i.e. it's a magical language. Only a raven familiar can speak a mundane language (and only one).

... though I suppose if you were able to find a parrot ...

[chalice]

Chalice is currently winning full marks for backstory

And somehow I suspect this is a measure of how much the GM anticipates being able to use said backstory to get the character in trouble...http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20paranoid.gif

[BigRedRod]

Yeah, that pretty much sums it up :)

[Thanos]

Hrmmm....having a bunch of other gladiators wanting revenge, people who lost bets wanting to get a little coin back, Dukes and their Sons, being famous, being frightening, etc. I am sure all of that can get Bollan into a good deal of trouble. Then again, so can the fact that he used to be a slave...people tend to look down on them socially and Bollan is not somebody that takes being looked down upon very well...could be a LOT of trouble ;-)

[The Alcotroll]

I just spent the best part of three hours reading up on the Doctor Who/Bad Wolf Conspiracy (http://www.matthewman.net/archives/2005/05/03/bad_wolf_hunting.php) .

I need to get a life.

[BigRedRod]

Oooh. I Was wondering about that myself, I actually thought the last ep was going to be about it when one of them actually said it.

[Tamarind]

Alas we've managed to miss most of these...hopefully they'll make it to DVD soon...:worry:

[BigRedRod]

Ugh. The next ep is called Bad Wolf. I fear that they are pulling an "it was all a dream/gameshow" on us.

Also I went to the pub this afternoon so I'm going to hold off posting for an hour or so. Possibly longer if I take a trip to the casino as planned. But I fully intend to get the xp handed out this fine eve and most likely the game going.

[BigRedRod]

*Drumroll* Time to finally hand out the much coverted XP bonuses for presentation and background quality

Inyx - Chalice
Sheet 180
Background 250
Total 430

Hargin Llanberris - The Alcotroll
Sheet 140
Background 125
Total 265

Sevilin - Tamarind
Sheet 200
Background 200
Total 400

Bollan - Thanos
Sheet 140
Background 160
Total 300

Daison Jezebeos - Dev
Sheet 250
Background 125
Total 375


I'll start things going tomorrow, I'm a bit tired now.

It strikes me that perhaps I was unfair in response to a question Dev asked about how much background to provide. I'll muse on that further.

[BigRedRod]

Bah! The Alcotroll informs me that he is off to Wales in the morning until Tuesday, no doubt as some kind of punishment for acts against the crown. This puts me the awkward situation of getting things cracking with a man down or delaying my opening post until the start of next week.

I'm leaning heavily in favour of a delay at the moment. I'd much rather start things off with everybody present and correct.

[chalice]

Waiting is cool - it'll be much more fun to all start together!

[Tamarind]

Definitely! I'd vote for waiting for 'Troll to return too...

I also think he should be given much credit for undertaking such an impressive level of character research ;)

[The Alcotroll]

That's a good one Tam'. Wish I'd thought of that...

I regret to announce that I will be forced to endure drowning, falling from rocks and moving objects and forced marches (or kayaking, climbing, mountain-biking and walking for the uninitiated). This is indeed a form of cruel and unusual punishment, for reading the Guardian in defiance of regulations.

[Thanos]

Erm...the Guardian?

Also in favor of waiting.

However, I will be gone from the 24th to the 27th in Texas with my GF and her family...its meet the family weekend and also the only vacation I get this year.

[The Alcotroll]

A paper.

Meet the family eh? Bad luck...

[chalice]

I bet things will be fine, Thanos - er, but 'good luck', just in casehttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

[Thanos]

The good part is that I have already met them once, on a very bad day for their family, and I still left a good impression after just lunch. My GF and I were not going out at the time though, but we were both interested in each other and she had already talked to her dad about 'a guy'...
Her sister likes me already, so that is a huge plus.

God willing, I will be proposing in September.

[BigRedRod]

Ooooh. That episode boded well for the finale.Bad Wolf was much better than I anticipated.

Shame they showed the daleks in the last "next time on Doctor Who", it was a pretty big spoiler.

[chalice]

I will remember to watch the re-show this evening, I will, I will! Didn't watch yesterday due to visiting our prospective kitten (now provisionally named Hades and arriving next weekend - yay!) and losing all track of time. Our friends pulled that old 'show Jane kitten; watch Jane's brain melt' trickhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

[chalice]

Ooh. Actually, that was rather good.

[BigRedRod]

And they're off!

I'm going to make a sub-forum in the World Info forum for details of NPCs. I'll bang in names and little descriptions of the Red Shirts... I mean NPC hirelings.

Oh, and you are all of the same team as should be obvious. You've had two days quite slow march (wagon speed) to get to know one another, teams were decided as you arrived at the site. So you don't need be bestest best friends with everybody just yet.

[BigRedRod]

Hargin moves to investigate the door, polishing his steel-rimmed glasses on his beard before gingerly blowing dust from the stonework.
As someone with both glasses and a beard to someone without teither I can inform you that you do not clean one on the other. Unless you like lots of little scratches :)

And I'll let Dev make a post before I reveal the exciting answers to Hargin's investigations
*baited breath*

[Dev]

Sorry. I'm here... just busy with a new job. I promise not to be a stranger! :x

... and I already hate Daison. -_-; (But it's a good hate!)

[BigRedRod]

Ack, busy day. All around me friends are finding out their degree classes and each requires praise and celebration.

I'll post after I eat some pizza

[BigRedRod]

Off home today, will catch up on all posting when I et my computer back up.

Thoughts on the last Doctor Who? I'm a little dissapointed really, it was a cool premise but just not explained to my satisfaction.

[BigRedRod]

Hmmm. Unpacking is taking time, somewhere in the boxes and bags covering my floor is the little white and red book of DT notes. Also my computer still hasn't reformed in to something that works.

In short : I know I'm up to post, and if it looks like putting my room back together is going to take longer than I'd like then I'll struggle through and use this god forsaken laptop to post (after retrieving the aforementioned notes)

Also, as a matter of style can everybody try and avoid if/else statements in this posts where possible? I have a few nitpicks that I should really make a note of. Off the top of my head they pretty much boil down to if/else and quotes.
Anyone using a quote tag in an IC post will find themselves at the mercy of my flying money brigade.

Still, no hard feelings :)

Now to see if I can conjure the courage to go and search through cupboards in the hope of finding somewhere that my boardgames can live.

[Thanos]

I think that people use the qoutes to help everybody else see in context where people are saying things that their characters would say. It also gives everybody a very good frame of reference when somebody is forced to backpost due to unpacking, vacations, computer problems, being on duty for a week, etc.

Please please please let us keep using the quotes!

[BigRedRod]

There is no keeping as they haven't found their way in to the IC thread yet. Games tend to move slowly that you only have a handful of posts to catch up on after missing a few days. I lump quote tags with emoticons, use to illustrate all the points you like but don't allow them inside an IC post.

Quote tags no more belong in IC threads than penguins do in a steam engine. I'm very set in my view here and it is unlikely to change.

[Thanos]

OK...as you like, of course.

[The Alcotroll]

Emoticons should be hunted down and destroyed anywhere, anyway. If you need to keep something in context then just fiddle it into your post; For example.

Bad:

"Your Mother was a hamster and your Father smelt of elderberries." said Jimbob to Boris.

"Up yours, Dog-breath!" said Boris.


Good:

Turning to Jimbob, Boris said; "Up yours, Dog-Breath!"
Simple innit?

[The Alcotroll]

And after that little pearl of wisdom killed the conversation, I'll add the following;

I'm away two weeks from today. I'll trust Tim to open any doors and traps lying around, and avoid combat like the plague.

[BigRedRod]

Ugh, my modem gave up and I've only just managed to restor some online capability after running around like a headless chicken for two days. I do hate how life conspires to jump out with a whole bushel of crap when you least expect it.

Also, I'll post soon

[BigRedRod]

If anybody has anything they'd like to do before I send Hargin down the stairs (and do my best impression of the welsh dialect) then you have until the sun rises.

Actually you have a bit longer as the sun rises really early (i.e. about four thirty) and i'm not in a state to do anything until about tenish.

[Dev]

Just thought I'd point out in case it becomes important: I decided Daison's familiar stayed behind with the rest of the expedition's crew (she probably didn't want to get dirty), if that's okay with you, BRR. That means Daison looses his Alertness (not like he'd use it if he had it), but it also means that if anything incredibly out of the ordinary occurs on the surface, he'll probably know about it.

(Also, I'm gonna go add Move Silently to his sheet since he gets a familiar bonus... dunno how I forgot about that.)

[chalice]

Um...don't you only get your Familiar bonuses when your familiar is within arm's reach? Or is that a house-rule in the toher D&D game I'm playing? I know Vashti gets slightly less...persuasive...when Lilith slithers too far away form her.

[BigRedRod]

Nope, just alertness. Everything else is a 1 mile radius
A familiar also grants special abilities to its master (a sorcerer or wizard), as given on the table below. These special abilities apply only when the master and familiar are within 1 mile of each other.

[chalice]

Oooh - I'm gonna beat up my other GMhttp://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[BigRedRod]

I tried to post but it just really wasn't happening. Luckily, I'm free during the day tomorrow so I'll have many hours to try and pound out something good.

But now I'm going to attempt sleep despite the Saharan temperatures

[chalice]

I'm offline on a family visit until Thursday - Inyx will continue to wander about happily, murmuring 'wonderful', 'gosh' and maybe occasionally 'oops!' until I return.

[BigRedRod]

As order of action is quite important here I've dropped you in to combat mode.

[Tamarind]

Fair enough - I assume you'd like us to post in initiative order, so I'll wait for Bollan's actions before I post Sevilin's?

Btw - roughly how far away is the little creature?

[BigRedRod]

Usually initative order doesmn't matter, but I think it does here. So yes, I encourage posting in order.

Every square is 5ft on the map.

[Tamarind]

Ooh! The map can have squares...<goes off to play with map options>

[BigRedRod]

Yep, press "cycle grid" (you can have hexes if you press it more but as I like walls that go straight and the line drawing ability is rather limited I use the squares).

Really this is the kind of thing I need to remember to mention at the start of a game.

[Tamarind]

Yep, found it. Quite a nifty little program really. Will have to spend some time playing with it at some point...

[BigRedRod]

Yep, it is a shame the tiles are so limited and the resizing isn't all that useful. I've been on the look out for something better but nothing has appeared (I toyed with the idea of using Dunjinni and then just uploading maps as images but I found it to rather tricky to use, largely as it wants to be a module creator rather than a simple map drawing program).

We had a thread were I suggested that the site try and hash something out, but we lack tech people with free time.

But I can live with irony's map maker for now.

[Thanos]

Bollan should be were the new Soldier with a sword symbol is.

Drop this text at http://www.irony.com/java/mmee
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That should constitute a half move or a full move I am not sure. If he has anything else left, he will save it in case the creature attacks or tries to get by him and then smack it ;-)

[BigRedRod]

Thanos, you can't use Combat Expertise at the moment. You can only use it "when you use the attack action or the full attack action in melee"

As it was only a move action to get Bollan in his current position that allows you to spend your standard action in order to ready an attack on the condition that the creature attacks you or attempts to get by.

You could use expertise as part of the readied attack, to take a -2 penalty on your attack and +2 on your AC. If the need arises I'll assume this unless you say otherwise.

Edit : Only Thanos posting IC by the time I got up this morning worked out quite well for me to implement the yellow-eyed monster's suprise attack.

[Tamarind]

Hey, I think I spot another game convention - italicised character in the initiative order is the one next to act, right?

[BigRedRod]

Yep. If you spot any other things I do which you don't understand feel free to prod me.

As I may not have mentioned everybody is represented by the first letter of their character name on the maps (except Leto who is just a man and the Guidsman who is a wizardy man)

[Tamarind]

Sevilin should be roughly here I think: -

Drop this text at http://www.irony.com/java/mmee
Drop this text at http://www.irony.com/java/mmee
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[chalice]

Ooops - I may have posted for Inyx out of order - I read the action thread before this one when I got back from my home visit. Sorrrrrrrrry!

[BigRedRod]

Although Leto should go before Inyx I think it is better if you post now. I prefer getting every little block of allies done in one post. The earlier break up was to allow for the arrival of Mr Yellow Eyes.

One of the problems with PBPs can be attempting to suprise the players by having their actions fail. Although if it comes up I'll most likely remove any IC posts that don't make sense and carry on (although I'll quote them in the ooc so as not to destroy any of your writing).

So, feel free to post as well now Dev

[Dev]

Gotcha. Not sure whether Hargin and Daison are now sharing that square in front of the door, or if Daison would just be off to the side. Either way works.

Another newbie moment, brought to you by the letter 5: Am I right in assuming that BRR basically takes our actions and rolls for them? I dunno how else we'd be doing it.

Also: I won't be around this weekend (sorry for the short notice). Hopefully that means I miss a few rounds at most, but Daison will likely stick to his crossbow for the foreseeable future.

[BigRedRod]

Another newbie moment, brought to you by the letter 5: Am I right in assuming that BRR basically takes our actions and rolls for them? I dunno how else we'd be doing it.
Yep. You post and I do my best to interpret your action, rolling dice as needed

I won't be around this weekend (sorry for the short notice). Hopefully that means I miss a few rounds at most, but Daison will likely stick to his crossbow for the foreseeable future.
I'LL HUNT YOU DOWN LIKE A DOG! Don't sweat it, any notice is better than none and you've let me know your character's most likely choice of action as far as you can see. I can't really ask for much more. Cheers.

I'll post when my morning headache leaves.

[BigRedRod]

Thanos, correct me if I'm wrong but I think Bollan's hit bonus with his two handed sword should "only" be +7. Unless there is something I'm missing going on.

[Thanos]

Strength +4
Level +2
Weapon Focus +1
MasterCraft Weapon +1
= +8

At least thats what I figured out and I might be wrong on the Level Bonus. It has been a fair time since I put him together, but I did go back and look and he is a bit of a nasty guy to have to cross blades with.

[BigRedRod]

Ah, I see. I didn't look in to the equipment section to see the masterwork note. Very good then, I'm wrong.

[Thanos]

Rules Question

Can a character use 2 feats at once?

If so, if both feats turn your Level bonus to hit into something else (such as AC or Damage) is it limited by your Level bonus in total or on an individual basis.
Example: Can Bollan uses Expertise and Power Attack at the same time. Is he limited to adding +1 to his AC and +1 to his damage because his total level bonus is only 2 or can he add +2 to his AC and +2 to his damage taking a -4 on any attacks he makes?

While it is not hugely important now, later on when Bollan has Grand Cleave he could get himself into trouble chopping up a lot of little badguys leaving a big nasty to lay him flat. Having a + to AC would be very helpful, as well as slashing down the little guys.

[BigRedRod]

That is a very good question. Until I find something stating otherwise we'll go with the latter. The wording of the feats doesn't state that it is a penalty on BAB but a penalty up to the BAB, so you can use each feat to its maximum ability on one attack.

[Thanos]

Cool!

While I do not think that these things (gem eyed ants) have a low AC, goblins and kobalts generally do...its the Ogre's that are behind them that I am worried about ;-)

[BigRedRod]

Taps three mountains and plays his Summon Alcotroll card
http://bits.bris.ac.uk/bigredrod/Cards/Alco.png
Craig, I choose you!

With or without a post from you tomorrow though I'll be posting. I encourage Chalice and Dev (if you're back yet) to post now in order to stop me NPCing the actions of a whole three players.

[chalice]

SCARY!!!!!!! SCARY PIC!!!!!!!

Righto - will go ahead and post - was just waiting for Hargin. Is Craig still having the computer troubles he mentioned in the Shadows on the Reik thread?

[BigRedRod]

Heh, go to the M:tG thread (http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4679&page=1) or the Portrait thread (http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3161&page=1) to see more exciting RL photos of members.

I txted Craig last night, his problems largely stem from having to rely on a modem to get to the intraweb at the moment. The computer troubles he mentioned in the other thread just compound the issue.

[Dev]

Hey, I've been around! ... but just like Chal I was waiting for Hargin to post. On we go, then.

[BigRedRod]

I realise you were both waiting for him, and upon closer inspection you said you were away last weekend rather than a longer period. I poked you today to let you know not to wait for The Alcotroll as I'd quite like to move on. I wasn't claiming either of you two were being inactive :)

[BigRedRod]

Chalice, Leto already touched the metal strip to illuminate the room in the previous round. So Inyx's own hand rubbings will have had no noticable effect. Just thought I'd clerrify rather than leaving you wondering

[chalice]

Yerah, I did read back to try and see if anyone had touched the light strip and coulnt't find it - must've missed Leto doing it. Thanks!

[BigRedRod]

After the first combat in each of my games ends I normally get at least player demanding to know how much experience he has earnt for his character.

I don't do things that way. Instead you get xp when a chapter ends, I don't do training (unless you are doing something bizarre with classes) so you simply add up the xp and if you level then you improve your sheet (I like a little note, either on your sheet in a separate post or in here, telling me exactly what you've done).

XP is handed out at an accelerated level due to the slow nature of PBPs (you'll find less combat than in a normal game but that isn't the only difference). And it is based on a new and cunning system of my own devising. If I explain it then it will be left open to exploitation.
Simply put, post often in order to keep the game moving, try to ensure that your posts are of a good quality (we all have off days when we just can't get the juices flowing, but don't worry) and you'll find yourself earning lots of experience.

I assume that this won't come as a suprise to most of you (except maybe the saving xp till the end of chapters)

[Thanos]

Thank you for letting us know. I was hoping that, unlike most hackmunster D20 games, XP would be handed out based on RPing instead of how many spells one cast or how many swings one took ;-)

[The Alcotroll]

I hate that fekking picture. Not only do I have the obligatory absence of neck, but Tim's infernal camera-phone has mutated my eyes!

My computer problems, awkward as they are, are compounded by my younger sibling who is permanently on the phone to his girlfriend (the little bastard...)

[BigRedRod]

You're bigger than him, just push him aside.
And yes, that photo came out very oddly. Clearly something to do with ghosts.

[Thanos]

Erm...BigRedRod.

I do not know how to interpret 'there will be some bruising' or how it translates into actual damage or just knowing that something came really close to causing real damage? Ie, does Chalice's character need to perform any divine healing?

[BigRedRod]

The expendables thread lists everybody's current hp totals. Bollan is currently on 13/17

[chalice]

So he is. I've edited my post to take account of this. Thanks!

[Thanos]

Can't post till sometime Monday

[BigRedRod]

Righty-ho, weekends are slow around here anyways. I've made a few stabs at posting (following Bollan's plan) but they've all fizzled.

I'll make a fresh attempt after sleep

[BigRedRod]

So that Craig has no excuses,
http://bits.bris.ac.uk/bigredrod/DT/map.png

[BigRedRod]

Just a quick note to let you know that I've not forgotten about my games but that I'm unlikely to post in the next few days.

Some family stuff has come up and writing anything coherent IC is a challenge that I'm not up to right now

[BigRedRod]

Right, stuff is dealt with and I'm busy playing catch up.

[Tamarind]

I'm in Glasgow for the next two days with work but will hopefully still be able to manage a post or two if I can get a connection going :worry:

[BigRedRod]

Also : Never ever quote in the IC or I'll hunt you down like a dog.

Have a fun trip though.

[BigRedRod]

Sevilin has both the rope and lantern needed for this task.

In the absence of any other suggested plans, am I to take that as a go on the "send the cleric to have a peek through the hole" mission?

[Tamarind]

Also : Never ever quote in the IC or I'll hunt you down like a dog.



Oop! Forgot about that http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20wink.gif

Sevilin's certainly willing to go ahead with this scheme, if a suitable guinea pig...erm I mean if Inyx is still happy to http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheeky.gif

[The Alcotroll]

I'm not sure I agree with Operation "Send the pretty woman down the mysterious hole first". It's come a cropper in every film I ever watched, and it may do us no good here.

That said, Hargin would probably disagree with any plan on principle, especially one coming from a Half-Elf...

[BigRedRod]

She can't actually fit through the hole Craig, she just wants a better look. Tragically that involves standing upon the floor that Hargin has deemed unsafe.

[chalice]

Yeah, I was kinda hoping someone in the party would say 'no, Inyx, that's a dumb idea' (which it is!)....

[BigRedRod]

Always good to see a player following their character's motivations even against their own judgements.

Good work.

[Tamarind]

I'm off to a murder / mystery event until Sunday night so won't be able to post till then, see you all soon :)

[BigRedRod]

Have fun, I'm sure that your companions will manage to resolve what to do about a room covered in fungus (if anything other than keep moving for other exciting adventures in other rooms)

[BigRedRod]

Or not...

Before I move you on I'd like to know whether you shut the door

[BigRedRod]

I'll post as soon as I can muster the energy. I went away yesterday morning for a birthday do and I'm really drained and lethargic.

This is one of the top most items of my shockingly long to-do list though.

[BigRedRod]

Thanos, could you do me a favour and use the java map to show me the layout that you are using? I'm not quite sure about where people are going and I don't want things to go badly as I've misinterpretted your instructions.

[Thanos]

Something along these lines? Everybody but Inyx and Bollan is on the side already explored. Bollan is in the center and Inyx is nearer the unexplored areas of the dungeon.

Drop this text at http://www.irony.com/java/mmee
*BEGIN 0 0 rs 0
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[BigRedRod]

Yep, that explains it perfectly.
I'll go post.

[BigRedRod]

Tamarind I'm a little confused by your move, if you take a 5 foot step forwards then the creature will be unable to step through the doorway as you'll be blocking the door yourself.

Which leads to my second question about readying an attack. If you step forwards you can take a swing, unless you neglected to mention a more suprising condition?

Or maybe I'm just easily confused early in the morning http://bits.bris.ac.uk/bigredrod/Rod.gif

[Tamarind]

Probably my mistake - Sevilin is just making sure he's in position to strike the creature if it moves past him (ie to or through the doorway more or less). Looked like there was a few foot gap on the map so I thought he might have to shuffle forward a bit - if not that's fine :)

[BigRedRod]

Ah, be sure that you are using the square grid when you look at the map. D&D breaks everything down into 5ft squares and (until the mythical mapping solution I proposed a million and one years ago gets started) so do I.

[BigRedRod]

Chalice, Inyx isn't in much of a lantern-bearing position. Unless you wish Hargin to try and toss it, which given your initative may have the added complication of melle combat getting invovled.

[BigRedRod]

Also, Dev you'rrrrrrrrrrre up!

[Tamarind]

But tragically our home internet connection isn't (grr grrrr ISPs grr ggrr)

SO unfortuantely Chalice and my posting is going to be a bit patchy at best until it's resolved - hopefully they'll get it resolved within a day but there's no guarantee (has been down since early Sunday AM so far) :worry:

[BigRedRod]

I feel your pain, my internet connection has been awful this summer.

Either way I'll get right on posting.

And if people could avoid posting outside their little "combat blocks" it would make things clearer as to what happens when rather than the current situation of a conversation with attached actions going on around a combat.

[BigRedRod]

OOC - based on the blows of the last one does Sevilin think it likely this thing could open the door by itself?
No, it would seem safe to bet one would not be able to muster the force to open the door

[BigRedRod]

I'm moving back to uni tomorrow. So after doing a half arsed job of packing I kinda have to get things finished now.

Also, my house doesn't have broadband yet so I'll have to trapse up to the union or some other building in order to get access.

So if I vanish for a week then something in my plan has gone wrong and I've been rendered internetless. I can usually find some method of getting online though, no matter how painful it is.

[BigRedRod]

Uni has me being a busy little bee while things get started. Hopefully I'll update in the morning.

[BigRedRod]

The Alcotroll hasn't been around for a while so I'll NPC Hargin for now.

[BigRedRod]

Wouldn't you rather send the currently absentee player's character to get the shovels?

I don't want to force your hand but I try to avoid putting players on the sidelines for any kind of period where I can avoid it

[Tamarind]

Fine by me http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[The Alcotroll]

I'm back! I texted Tim, pestering him to post an apology and explanation for my continued absence, but the bastard was too pissed.

Anyway, we've got broadband now, so I can spend longer online, though I still have to fight to get to the damn machine. I'll take a look at the IC stuff and post of necessary.

[BigRedRod]

I'm back! I texted Tim, pestering him to post an apology and explanation for my continued absence, but the bastard was too pissed.
Yeah, when but when I remembered that you'd txted me a few days ago you said it didn't matter!

Pah!

Any chance boradband means you can hook up your own computer and get back on msn?

[BigRedRod]

Okay, everybody except Sevilin needs to make a decision about what you are going to do while he is gone. Are you looking in one of the rooms? Waiting patiently? Something else?

Also I appear to have developed the plague.

[Tamarind]

Also I appear to have developed the plague.

Ooh, not good :tsk:

Get well soon

[BigRedRod]

I'll take that as evethbody just wanting to wait, I'll post once I've got back form yet another exciting meeting which is taking up a part of my weekend

Edit: Meeting lasted far longer than makes sense, very tired, will post after filming tomorrow

[The Alcotroll]

Yeah. there's naff all to do except wait for the arrival of the shovels.

[BigRedRod]

I'd forgotten about the familiar, good catch Dev.

Also, a list of the others can be found here (http://online-roleplaying.com/forums/showthread.php?p=117550#post117550) for thos who have forgotten

[chalice]

Sorry for slow posting from me recently. Flu sucks.

[BigRedRod]

Yes, yes it does. I've avoided it this year apart from the previously mentioned bad cold. Although everybody else seems to have joined the legions of the walking dead.

[BigRedRod]

Dev, I think the others are waiting on Daison answering Inyx

[BigRedRod]

Thought this might help. The Red X is the gap in the earth leading down into the ruin. The grey line marks the cliff (the dottedness marks the cliff vanishing as the ground on the right slopes upwards to meet it on the level). A cliff of the packed earth and stone variety like a section of the earth was just pushed up above the surrounding area a long time ago rather than solid stone type.

The cliff top is covered in a thin layer of soil with grass and the like growing on it but bits and pieces of stone show through. It is also pretty much level (as you might expect seeing as it is essentially the roof of the ruin).

The slope down to the camp is covered in slightly better established vegetation, little bushes and the like. The camp is set up beside the river where the ground is flat.

There is a forest on the other side of the river, the river forks near the camp but that isn't especially important, nor is the fact it flows westward assuming normal "north at the top".

And I know I've not put anything resembling a scale on, I hate estimating distance. The distances involved are fairly small, maybe a minute or two strolling down the hill from the site entrance to the camp.

[The Alcotroll]

Tim! I didn't realise you were doing Geography at uni!

[BigRedRod]

I'm a man of hidden talents.

[BigRedRod]

More concerned with tamping his pipe, it takes a nudge in the ribs for Hargin to notice the two approaching forms.

"H'rud! B'tudz Grobi!"

Excitedly, Hargin reaches for his crossbow.

"Goblins laddie!" he hisses, "Them's Goblins, an' they've not seen us yet..."

You get to repost your message Craig. I tried to sort out the time issues the other day but thread splitting and merging doesn't do the job. So rather than have you whine more about it before I get a chance to speak with Danny, this will do as a solution.

[The Alcotroll]

Hurray for me.

You might like to edit your post and change 'Thanos' for 'Bollan' however.

[BigRedRod]

Yes, that would seem a good course of action.

[BigRedRod]

How is Sevillin heading for the supposed goblins?

Stealthily moving back across the plateau and then down the slope toward them would take a fair bit of time. They'd likely arrive in the camp by then. Unless you take the -5 or -20 penalty to go faster.

Unless you were intending to try and casually clamber down the cliff side and jump out behind them?

[The Alcotroll]

Perchance a decent map? I also was under the impression that the Goblins weren't quite so far off, which is why my first stated action had been to take a pot-shot at them.

Where is the stag-point, which direction are the Goblins approaching from, and how far from the camp are they?

[BigRedRod]

Pfff, that map is plenty good. I'm horrible at estimating distances and crafting maps. This is why I try and avoid doing it. I could use irony but that would really demand I pick a scale which usually leads to things making no sense at all.

The distance between you and the goblins doesn't really change the fact that getting close to them is tricky if you have to move a large distance (back across the plateu and down the slope) slowly (move silently, hide, etc.) unless you want to simply take the direct route and try and quietly clamber down a cliff of the loose dirt clod variety.

Using ranged weapons is quite possible, they're about 40 feet below you (you being on the top of the cliff which conceals the ruin and them being on the river bank)

I thought I told you the goblins were following the river toward the camp, i.e. they emerged from somewhere westwards along the base of the cliff.

My Craig-speak isn't good enough to work out what you mean by stag point.

[The Alcotroll]

Stag point read Sentry post.

Since the gobbos are between us and the camp and the cliff is in our way (and the seasoned professional who set up the stag point neglected to include comms-cord or mention contact procedure), the only sensible option is to shoot at the fuckers and make some noise. So that's what we'll do.

[chalice]

[Tam isn't ignoring everyone - his lovely employers have sent him haring off to sunny Birmingham again. He should be able to post tonight.]

[BigRedRod]

Ah, in that case I have the upmost sympathy for him

[BigRedRod]

Sorry, I've had a project deadline looming so I've been working excessively and I think that my burst of exercise the other day may have done something irreperable to my internal organs.

A post is on the way though.

[BigRedRod]

I've developed an exciting method of determining xp according to a various categories. I'll leave the exact maths to your imagination but it takes into account the number of IC posts, writing quality, roleplaying and drive.

New chapter on its way (I'm currently aso trying to get a project report done and the orp is playing silly buggers so things may not go exactly to plan)

I'm also in the process of updating the ruin map thread to include the regions explored by the other party (I'll likely be adding short descriptions of each map too, I may well remake them so I can just host them as images seeing as they will be updated less frequently)

[Dev]

::does the I-got-some-XP jig::

[chalice]

(Ms Pukabury should get XP too!)

I will be offline between Monday 5th and Wednesday 14th December, getting married and on honeymoon. Be good while I’m gone :) and do go ahead an puppet Inyx to keep things rolling.

[Dev]

Woaw! Congrats, chal! Hope you have fun...

And Ms. Pukabury gets new bonuses as Daison levels up, so ... she's really suited for being a familiar. You don't have to actually do anything to improve.

[BigRedRod]

Yes, congratulations indeed there Chalice. And hurrah for the party having a new method of detecting traps, sending the playerless character noisly down corridors.

[chalice]

Send Sevelin - he weighs more. (Did I mention that I'm taking Tam with me, otherwise there'll be no bridegroom...)

[The Alcotroll]

Hurray for the bride and groom!

I'm still here, so you can't send Hargin.

[Dev]

ZOMG. Are you seriously? :x

Well damn, maybe Daison better back down on all his interest in Inyx. <___<

[BigRedRod]

Well in that case I should also offer my contragulations to Tamarind as well.

Hope you both have a thoroughly rocking day tomorrow.

[Tamarind]

Thanks all - see you all when we get back http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20cheerful.gif

[Thanos]

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Let me first start out by apologizing for my far to lengthy absence form these boards. While I can not excuse this I beg for some understanding based on the below.

1) Work.
It appears that the week before, during, and after Thanksgiving is an excessively busy time.
November also saw 3 company promotions. Normally this does not effect me to badly, but this time all three product lines were high quality. This required me to spend a lot of time talking it up with my stores that I normally would not have needed to do.
2) Significant Other (almost fiancé, almost!)
She was scheduled to go to South Africa starting in December…and is still there. Obviously I wanted, let alone that she really wanted, to spend a LOT of time together she went…in fact almost all of my time.
3) House
Yes friends, neighbors, and anybody else…..ITS ALMOST DONE (A nice Christmas present if all goes well in fact). This has been the chore of the century, worse than any College final I ever took, and requires hundreds of signatures and initials as well as walking the property….Suffice is to say I have been running around town to all kinds of places doing all kinds of things.
4) Friends
There have been, and still are, many things happening and brewing which required my attention, time, and in many circumstances much effort.
5) The Server
I tried different times to get online and post at least something, but found at each turn that the server was not being friend. I did get in once, but I was dumped within a minute or two before I could get anything done :-P….

Between now and the middle of January I am going to be relatively occupied with moving, getting utilities, USPS services, and a myriad of other things working at my new house. The best of which is a static IP Server that my brother will be running, which will make getting through TGV a lot easier. I will do my best to be here and active, server willing, however.

If you play in other games that I am in or run, you may want to skip reading this again as I will be posting it in each OOC thread.





CONGRATS YOU TWO!

[BigRedRod]

It's okay Thanos, I've been pretty slow to post myself lately.

I was planning on posting this afternoon but instead I ended up sat in the student health waiting room for two hours and now I've got too shoot off now.

[BigRedRod]

I'm happy for people to provide input of Inyx and Sevilin's actions while their two players are away. Postation shall occur in the morning

[Tamarind]

We're back!

Congratulations on all the good fiance and house stuff Thanos :nod:

[BigRedRod]

Sorry that took me so damn long. Busy, busy, busy. I made a pretty creative interpretation to your post Tam as you couldn't move west and if you were able to you wouldn't have been able to attack the spider at all.

[Tamarind]

Thanks for that http://www.online-roleplaying.com/forums/images/smilies/smiley%20-%20happy.gif

[BigRedRod]

Ack, Didn't realise I had been neglecting my own games.

A horrible combination of being a busy little screwdriver and not actually noticing that I was up.

[chalice]

Oops - I was miles behind and had not updated Inyx's spells overnight. 'Tis now done.

[chalice]

Is Sevelin hurt, or just shaken up? Inyx is checking.

[BigRedRod]

Nope, not hurt in any real way.

Also, I'm in the run up to my January exams so whenever I'm on the site I end up feeling guilty for not working. It'll all be over by saturday though.

[The Alcotroll]

Right. I'm assuming that we need to get across the gap, and there are two ways we can do this.

First is a rope-bridge, which is less risky for the rest of the group, and can be left in position. However, it requires a minimum of 150ft of rope, a solid anchor on both sides, at ground level and shoulder height, and a way of getting someone (preferably Hargin) onto the other side to set the thing up.
I reckon Hargin can traverse the gap along the wall, and attach the ropes on the other side with pitons from his climber's kit.

Alternatively, we can abseil down one side, cross the floor below, and climb up the other side. That's simpler but it puts us at risk from another spider visitation, and we have to find a way of getting up the other side, which is an over-hang. It can be done if I can find a grapnel (think I've got one).
Once the first couple of people are up, the non-climbers who can't climb the rope can be hauled up.
We won't be leaving in any kind of a hurry though, so we're shafted if we need to leg it. It's also possible that we could be dropping people if Tim decides to screw those of us who don't have the use rope skill.

Thoughts?

Edit: I'm well up for the rope bridge, it's like the goddamn initiative excercises I've been doing for the last three years!

[chalice]

If you get an email from Tam (tamarindcat@hotmail.com), please do not open it. Some delightful person has hijacked his hotmail account and is using it to send out pornography and presumably virus-y-type nastiness too.

Any email that really is from him will henceforth be sent from his googlemail.com account.

Grrr. Aaargh.

[Tamarind]

The rope bridge sounds best - safest way to do it is probably to hurl (or fire from the crossbow?) a grapnel across to secure the first rope and then send someone across hand-over-hand whilst it's held taught...

[BigRedRod]

It'd be nice if somebody put a plan into action in the IC. Craig, I'm looking at Hargin for this one.

[Tamarind]

This plan copyright Hargin the Dwarf, humbly put forward by Sevilin :)

[BigRedRod]

I'll update soon. This weekend has been a bit of a write-off in terms of achieving anything other than frantically trying to reconstruct lost memories while enduring hangovers sent straight from God as punishment for whatever it was we did.

I have some stuff that is mission critical, but hopefully this afternoon will be free

[Tamarind]

Good luck with that whole morning after thing ;)

[BigRedRod]

...or not.

C'mon guys. Tam is asking for input here. Come up with exactly what you are going to do in an attempt to progress further.

[Thanos]

Sorry. I was thinking that just about everybody but Bollan should be speaking up. The sword wielding, heavily armored killer is not exactly the guy that normally comes up with methods of obsticle maneuvering.

[chalice]

Likewisefor Inyx. Happy to try either option.